Ask your grandparents, your mailman, and the veteran who lives in your neighborhood.

As far as your rant against the rule of turning in your clunker (imagine that being a rule in the Cash for Clunkers program), who made you wait until the car you wanted was all sold out?

Nevertheless, there have been a large number of dealers that are blatantly committing fraud by letting the customer keep driving their clunker. Have you called around?

THANK’S FOR YOUR HELP
HOWARD

don’t know when i will get my new car. i did call the office of the inspector general. see where that gets me.

They called the dealership and found out that my process had been rejected and resubmitted. The dealership originally told me that everything was fine and it hadn’t been rejected. caught them in a lie i did. small potatoes but a lie and ultimately the reason nothing has added up i still don’t trust any one source.

what i was JUST told is that there was a failure on oracles part. Oracle made a change to the system that was supposedly going to provide “instant approval”. From what I’m told EVERYBODY in the system up to that point had be inadvertently rejected by a bug injected by the change.

can anybody substantiate this? (please provide phone numbers and web links)

Sickened by all of this in Connecticut.

I received my loan payment book in the mail last week. The sales person called earlier this week to see if I liked the car. Told him yes and asked if everything was good with my voucher request. I was told everything was fine with mine.

On 8/13/2009, I received a call from the salesperson saying mine had been kicked back due to Insurance varification and they had spoke to my agent and asked me to call him and tell him it was OK to fax them the information they called him about earlier. I spoke to the agent and gave him permission to fax the requested info to the dealer.

I faxed the dealer copies of the last two years (4 ID cards) of proof of Insurance.

The dealer must not have sent all of these through before since they more than satisfied the proof of Insurance requirements. Mine was the first one they did and I feel they must of screwed up submiting the complete Insurance info.

They bring about part of the problems themselves.

New CARS Guidance

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In response to overwhelming interest in the CARS program, NHTSA has clarified that consumers who want to purchase new vehicles not yet on dealer lots can still be eligible for the CARS program. Dealers and consumers who have reached a valid purchase and sale agreement on a vehicle already in the production pipeline will be able to work with the manufacturer to receive the documentation needed to qualify for the program.
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Note that it says “a vehicle already in the production pipeline”

When you order a new car at a dealer, the manufacturer accepts the order, assigns a VIN (vehicle identification number) to the order, then later builds and ships the car. There’s just one problem…it can take a few WEEKS just to get a VIN assigned! And it can take 8+ weeks until the car is actually delivered to the dealer.

QUESTIONS:

1. When does the dealer submit the clunker application?

2. Are the paperwork requirements different for an ordered car?

3. Does the customer surrender their clunker for two months waiting for the ordered car to be delivered?

4. Can the dealer require a CARS approval BEFORE actually placing the order? I can guaran-damn-tee you that SOME dealers are going to lay down that requirement!

400 POUND GORILLA IN THE ROOM:

CARS probably won’t pay the rebate until AFTER the new car order has an assigned VIN. This can take weeks in some cases. Even conservative estimates have CARS being out of money by the end of this month. So even if you ordered a car today, CARS will likely be out of money before you get a VIN.

So I would ask… How is ANYONE going to be able to use this option????

”I invested over $500,000 to bring in extra cars for the program because I knew it would be popular. I thought that I would have a strategic advantage and be rewarded because my local competition did not stock up. Today’s decision took that away advantage. This is just another example how changing rules have made it difficult for dealers to support the program.”
Unquote.

Hmmm…if that dealer’s available-now cars can’t compete with other brands that consumers are willing to wait for, maybe that dealer needs to look at pricing, incentives, policies and customer service issues? According to his own words, he expected to sell his cars simply because they were the only ones left available. Cry me a river. Make your vehicles and your dealership attractive to consumers, or lose. Just my opinion, of course.